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Start
with the Trouble
Poems by Daniel Donaghy

How would
you describe your writing style?
I’m a Philly kid and, as such, I have a very good b.s. detector.
This has gotten me into some tense situations over the years, but
all in all it has given me a good sense of direction. I’m
very much in line with William Stafford’s idea of poetry as
considered speech, and with Ginsberg’s notion that poetry
is what happens when you catch yourself thinking. I try to speak
to the reader (and by that I mean anyone who cares to listen) in
language that is clear, precise, conversational, and inviting, and
that is driven by a strong rhythm. I hear Rilke’s question
“Must I write?” in my head all of the time
as I work. It drives me to engage the mind and the heart in an artistic
struggle to say something new, urgent, and true about the world
we live in. And in order for a poem to feel true to me, it has to
be written in language free of pretense.
The biggest compliment I could receive about my work is for someone
to come up and say, “You know, I’ve always hated poetry,
but I really like yours.” I love the idea that anyone could
pick up my book and understand it. I work very hard to approach
what Langston Hughes calls “the epitome of simplicity”––not
simplicity of thought or content or form, but simplicity as being
something synonymous with organic. Simplicity in the sense of each
poem being stripped of artifice and pretense down to its emotional
core, so that it contains intellectual and emotional urgencies––along
with the names of people and places––that readers can
identify with.
What many people misunderstand about poetry is just how hard it
is to write a clear, precise, interesting poem that also speaks
to the mysteries surrounding us. It is far easier to write a gratuitously
difficult poem that no one understands and congratulate yourself
for being obscure, then look askance at anyone who dares to try.
That may sound cynical, and I don’t mean it to be, as there
are many difficult poems whose form is warranted. In any case, I
hope that the speakers in my poems sound familiar and welcoming
to readers, and interesting enough to hang out with for forty lines
or so, or for however long it might take them to read the book.
How and when did you become interested in poetry?
In tenth grade, back at the George Washington Carver High School
for Engineering and Science in North Philadelphia. For whatever
reason, I was pulled out of tenth-grade English class to listen
to a visiting poet read from his work in our library. I thought
I hated poetry. I’d certainly never read much of it that I
enjoyed at that time, and none of my teachers seemed to care too
much about it. Truth is, I’d never known what poetry was until
that visiting poet, Etheridge Knight, walked into our library. As
I remember it, Knight sat on a stool while the bunch of us students
sat o the floor in front of him. I don’t think he had any
poems with him. As I see him now, he has them all memorized. The
first poem I ever heard that gave me chills was his poem “Hard
Rock Returns to Prison from the Hospital for the Criminal Insane.”
After those first lines, “Hard Rock / was / "known not
to take no shit/ From nobody," and he had the scars to prove
it:”, I was sold. A whole new world opened up for me. In many
ways, I keep trying to write poems that will move people the way
Knight’s moved me that day.
Start with the Trouble is your second book of poems. What
is its connection to its predecessor, Streetfighting?
Start with the Trouble is the second book in what I see
as a trilogy of poetry collections inspired by my coming of age
in inner city Philadelphia. Streetfighting is centered
around emotionally intense experiences related to adolescence and
young adulthood. Start with the Trouble picks up where
Streetfighting leaves off. There are plenty of more Philly
poems in the new book, but there are plenty of post-Philly poems,
too. And then there are a number of poems that move back and forth
between my past life and my present one. Those make up the emotional
core of the book, I believe, because those poems reflect most accurately
who I am at this particular point in time.
As I’ve grown as a writer, I’ve become more and more
convinced of the marriage between past and present. The thread between
now and then, between here and there, is endlessly rich and rewarding
and mysterious. I never know when I’ll make a connection between
what appears to be an ordinary object and an emotionally charged
memory or idea that could transform that object into a symbol of
something much bigger and more universal.
What is the significance of the book’s title?
The title poem of this book presents its biggest claim and raises
its biggest philosophical question when, in the final lines, the
speaker’s father tells his son “Start with the trouble,/
you hear me? Make it through that,/ mark my words, and you’ll
be home free.” That poem as inspired by my relationship with
my father, and it raises questions like “Are we ever really
‘free’ from our past? Can we ever completely forget
our formative experiences?” And the answer seems to be no,
but we all spend a lot of time and energy, like Oedipus, trying
to break free from the ties that bind us, good or bad, to those
formative experiences.
I know I certainly did. Growing up, I spent a lot of time worrying
about what was going to happen to me. Where I grew up, I didn’t
feel like I really fit in all of the time, or even much of the time.
But I couldn’t imagine that I would ever live anywhere else,
though, so I felt kind of trapped. Then I read a lot of novels and
autobiographies, and listened to a lot of music, in which the protagonists
felt like kindred spirits––searchers, like me, I guess.
Their words gave me permission to imagine a world beyond our second-floor
apartment on Lehigh Avenue. Also, their words taught me the power
of words. It might have been Elvis Costello who said that one of
the most powerful things about a good song is that it stays written.
I’ve taken those words to mean that a well-written piece defeats
time, because carefully crafted words will always have a place in
the world. Very inspiring and greatly challenging.
What my poems have become, then, are places for me to search for
meaning and truth, and to confront the things that continue to eat
at me and try to put words to them as best I can. I’ve begun
to write short stories, too, and I enjoy how they complement the
poems. They allow me to get at subjects that for whatever reason
don’t fit into my poems. The best stories I’ve written
so far are about literal life-and-dead experiences in inner city
Philly. I’ve published a few of them in literary journals
recently, and I hope to have a collection together before too much
longer.
How did you decide on the order of the poems?
Start with the Trouble is arranged, as the title suggests,
in roughly chronological order. It’s front-loaded with a lot
of Philly poems, then moves into some poems inspired by experiences
or cultural, historical, or news events outside of Philadelphia,
then in the final 1/3 or so of the book moves into a group of poems
that move back and forth across time in the way I mentioned earlier.
I’ve worked very hard to craft Start with the Trouble
into a book that presents a broad arc of experiences, styles, and
emotions.
What other projects are you working on?
I am currently working on a new poetry collection, which may end
up as the final book in the trilogy about Philadelphia, as well
as the short story collection I mentioned earlier. Those should
keep me busy for the foreseeable future, as far as writing projects
go.
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